Episode 85 – IA Apocalypse and Rapid Release

Thunderhawk from The Lord Inquisitor

Thunderhawk from The Lord Inquisitor

Episode 85 is right around the corner and with this one, we fill our third chair with regular favorite guest Adan. But what is this episode all about?

The game has been changing. The introduction of 6th edition has been met with quite a lot of criticism from the tournament scene over the last year. The fast changing release of codexes and codex expansions is quickly changing the face of the game, preventing any one build or codex from maintaining a lead over another for long.

We explore the impact of how this is changing not only the tournament scene, but how this is having an impact on purchasing models & armies for non-tournament gamers, as well as how it is effecting retailers.

We also take an in depth look at the new Imperial Armour Apocalypse released by Forge World as well as the new release of Apocalypse Warzone: Damnos by Games-Workshop.

Not only that, we have an interesting interview for you from Erasmus, the driving force behind the video The Lord Inquisitor, which has the blessing of Games Workshop and the participation of Aaron Dembski-Bowden.

So sit back. Relax. And enjoy Episode 85 of The Independent Characters.

  • 0:00:00 - Show Intro
  • 0:05:00 - Workbench and Games Played
  • 0:46:20 - Rapid Release Schedule Discussion
  • 1:49:00 - Imperial Armour Apocalypse
  • 2:18:00 - Interview with The Lord Inquisitor
  • 2:46:00 - Show Closing and Final Thoughts

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The Independent Characters - Episode 85

9 Responses

  1. Good episode guys. I enjoyed the conversation about GWs new rapid release program and what retailers are say out by you.
  2. I'm still trying to figure out what GW's plan is with the rapid release. They can't keep up this pace, so whats their end game? I think they are trying to incr4ease their profits, and then sell the company. We are sadly in the end times of Warhammer.
  3. Robert Pace
    There are lots of possibilities, and all of them involve Games Workshop making more money. Develop a vibrant game by updating armies that have languished for years? Make more money. Blitzkrieg the community with a combined lack of information and rapid release schedule? Build a communal dependence on GW retail outlets for information and stock (notice how often independent retailers have trouble getting popular models or have shipments delayed on release weekends?). They're actively, publicly working to build their web business, and they're doing a good job so far. Final thought: everyone I talk to says that this can't last forever, but why not? Between all the codices (15?), an infinite number of potential supplements, and stuff like Apocalypse and the associated warzones, they could release a new $50 book every quarter until they're ready for 7th edition (also, the new sales format - straight from the head of trade sales - is to plan for the long game, with books selling early and models developing legs; they don't need to keep releasing books forever if that works out).
  4. Robert Pace
    Sorry for the text block.
  5. It just does not seem like good business sense to me. Primary codex's sell, sure. But the supplements only appeal to a much smaller crowd. And no one I know is interested in the Warzone book. If Apoc. was that big a seller, the whole game would be Apoc., not a side game. I don't think this will end well. I'll continue to pour money into GW, as I always have, but I'm seriously looking at other TWG, like FoW, and anything other then WM/Hordes (their models suck). Maybe its time to start playing paintball/airsoft competitively again.
  6. Carl Tuttle
    I highly doubt they are doing this as part of their position to sell. This "GW is selling" rumor has been going on for over 10 years by my count. I actually can't see how this DOESN'T end well. People have been clamoring for faster rules. Here they are. Additionally with the strategy of Mini-Dexes they are attaching - there is virtually limitless potential. Oh and add to that the stuff like the Apoc Warzones... look at each of the product lines and you can see how you now have a primary product and then secondary "add ons". This is QUITE intentional I can assure you. This will also help GW focus on what they really want to be selling... which is models. Not rules. The rules are simply there to drive model sales. And with the additional material coming out - they basically have carte blanche to just keep pumping things out. Oh you're done collecting? What about allies now? Forgot to mention that nice little tidbit. Personally I didn't think the 40k environment could get any better... I've been proven wrong. Now if the prices were just a little lower... (Of course that wont happen).
  7. Carl Tuttle
    Michael E. Hurwitz - I highly doubt they are doing this as part of their position to sell. This "GW is selling" rumor has been going on for over 10 years by my count. I actually can't see how this DOESN'T end well. People have been clamoring for faster rules. Here they are. Additionally with the strategy of Mini-Dexes they are attaching - there is virtually limitless potential. Oh and add to that the stuff like the Apoc Warzones that you mentioned... look at each of the product lines and you can see how you now have a primary product and then secondary "add ons". This is QUITE intentional I can assure you. While the mini-dexes may appeal to a smaller audience, they are probably pretty inexpensive and quick to develop. This will also help GW focus on what they really want to be selling... which is models. Not rules. The rules are simply there to drive model sales. And with the additional material coming out - they basically have carte blanche to just keep pumping things out. Oh you're done collecting? What about allies now? Forgot to mention that nice little tidbit. Personally I didn't think the 40k environment could get any better... I've been proven wrong. Now if the prices were just a little lower... (Of course that wont happen).
  8. Carl Tuttle
    Michael E. Hurwitz I also think you are giving up on them just a bit too early here. You have basically just declared they are doomed and you are starting to look elsewhere. People have been doing that for 20+ years now.
  9. Harrison Webb
    For Skull Heads for space marines I'd go for Anvil Industry Ltd, they do some great bits for really cheap

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